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Qidi tech X Max 3

I will get this new CoreXY printer with klipper soon and so i ordered the 3d Chameleon set today. As i understand it will be no problem to set it up with my new printer. I just want to make sure that while i want to print high temperature filaments with it, the system should be somehow moisture proof because these filaments have to be inside closed boxes even while printing. Any thoughts about that ?

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Kenneth Gould

Jun 16

Sorry to necro this thread, I was just curious if anyone has this running with a 3dclippy. If so how difficult is it to mount? Thanks in advance.

Bill

Jun 17

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Actually, I need to get back to this machine. I'll have the run out sensors and the 3DClippy installed for this machine... but I can't get back to it until after the Midwest RepRap Fest this next weekend.

This one will include modifications to the Klipper configs to support it.

I'll get back to you. One thing to note, the top of the machine is pretty difficult to get the 3DClippy installed because when it moves forward, it tucks under the front of the unit, but I'm sure we can make it fit.

Bill

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Andy de Roeck

Jul 04

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Hi Bill, I've got my 3DChameleon (MK4) on its (shipped this week - international) and will be looking at hooking it up to my X-Max-3 and just trying to gather all the STL/Step files etc that I'd need. If you could let me know if you figure out the 3DClippy model/stl. I was thinking I'd need to change/model a new extruder front over so the 3D(Auto)Clippy was low enough(?) or are you trying to get it working without the cover at all.

Bill

Mar 09

Hey all, here's a beta profile and the printed parts you'll need for the Qidi X Max 3. https://www.printables.com/model/797994-3dchameleon-profile-and-mounts-for-the-qidi-x-max

And here are some pictures of my installation.

Switch mount affixed with two sided foam tape.

Y adapter mount and electronics affixed with two sided foam tape. 3DChameleon mount attached using the two left side metal plate screws. The 3DChameleon just snaps into the mount. Please note: This mount is a remix of willempi25's Flashforge 5M holder for the 3DChameleon, which can be found here: https://www.printables.com/model/756165-3dchameleon-holder I love the idea of this mount... it makes it very easy to service the 3DChameleon if needed.

Bill

m_chamberlain

Mar 09

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Thanks Bill, that's great news! I actually ordered my 3d Chameleon last week you may have noticed. I won't be able to install it until the end of April though (when I pick it up from my buddies house and bring it back to Portugal).

Mark VanHoutteghem

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Do you have any pictures of the 3DClippy installed or the auto clippy?

m_chamberlain

Feb 23

Hi Bill, just wondering if you know of anyone who is running the 3dc with a Qidi X Max 3? Or if you know of any issues installing a 3dc on one?

Thanks,

Mark

Bill

Feb 23

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I have one in the shop right now. It's actually a very easy installation... nothing fancy that I see is needed. The switch literally mounts on the inside back left using some 3M VHB tape.

Bill

m_chamberlain

Feb 23

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That's great news Bill. I'm interested to see this install if you could post a pic or video somewhere? I currently live in Portugal but I'm back to the US for a visit at the beginning of April so I'll likley pick one up then (save international shipping & import taxes which are huge here). Unfortunately I'll miss the 4 Pro launch by a week so I'll have to have those parts shipped to me for the upgrade I guess.

jim bank

Sep 12, 2023

I am also looking to add this to my x-max 3. I couple questions.

1.Would you just pull filament without cutting?

2.Would this be added before filiment runout sensor?

3. How are you going to deal with the slack created in the filament while retracting? I can see this causing tangles.

This is awsome. I hope this works.

Jim

wjsteele

Sep 12, 2023

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1) If you don't implement a cutter like the 3DCliopy, then you must do a proper tip shaping process to make sure it doesn't have strings or blobs.

2) The filament run out sensor must be disabled or removed... otherwise the printer will stop when it detects the filament being removed.

3) If you use the Mode 2 installation where the Y is at the extruder, there is only a small amount that you don't have to worry about it... if you use the remote Mode 3 mounting of the Y adapter, the I suggest you use one of the auto spool rewinder solutions, like the Prusa Gravity Spool Holder.

Bill

Peter Worthington

Aug 27, 2023

Did you get it all working what slicer are you using? Did you have trouble mounting the switch

Usurpine Susanti

Aug 27, 2023

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It took some time to get better Filament, i wanted use some high temperature Filament, but until now i am not able to print with it right. So i am working on that. I have changed to steel nozzle and there are no default settings that work, so i have to find out all that by myself and thats very time consuming.

Meanwhile i have installed a camera inside the chamber so i can quickly see if something is messing up and i dont have to walk all the way to my shop while i am sitting on my PC which is upstairs.

I am using the qidi slicer based on prusa slicer. Works absolutly fine with PLA+ and PETG. But i am struggling with PA-CF on 300°, 120° Heatbed and 60° Chamber.

So i need to learn how to find the right settings for this filament first.

So i havent done any testing with the MMU yet because of that.

Peter Worthington

Aug 27, 2023

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Cool I might Try it only want to do ASA and HIPPS

Dtroyl

Aug 12, 2023

Keep us updated how it goes mounting it to the X-Max-3 and how it works for you.

I got an X-Max-3 coming and was thinking about adding the 3D Chameleon to it at some point in the future.

wjsteele

Aug 12, 2023

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I have a stepper motor mount that can be used to mount the switch. I'm out right now, but will post it later tonight. It can also be used for the Bambu, Creality K1 and Qidi lines of printers... And possibly more due to its generic nature.

Bill

Usurpine Susanti

Aug 11, 2023

Right now i am working on boxes to put every roll of filament i have inside with an in- and outlet tube and a cheap hygrometer. This is the cheapest possible way to do that, its about 10-12 € per box. The boxes are food boxes from amazon (Wildone 384ml, 6x for 52€, Hygrometer is 6pcs for 15€). So i will do the same with the 3DChameleon somehow. The bottom will be filled with granulat to catch the moisture and the filament will have never have contact to not dryed air. So no fiddling around with plastic bags and vacuum pumps or heating up filaments for several hours just to get rid of the water inside. It doesnt matter for PLA but it really matters for nylon and other high temp filaments i want to print with the Qidi XMax 3, even while the print is going on, because one print can still take many hours, even with this fast printer.

Bill

Aug 11, 2023

The 3DChameleon is basically an extruder. You'll need something separate, like a RepBox, to keep the filament in to keep it within your environmental specs. Normally, a simple filament box is all that is needed, however, I'm not sure that even it's necessary during printing. It's all dependent on the filament type and the manufacturer's specifications.

Bill